Copeland Brand Products Technical FAQ
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 | 1. What is considered good oil pressure? |
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Good oil pressure is 1-3.5 bars, this is the differential between crankcase and oil pump discharge.
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 | 2. How do I know if a compressor is operating to capacity? |
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When selecting a compressor the capacity is listed under specific conditions (Example: EN conditions for air conditioning compressors is at 50°C condensing and 5°C evaporator). A compressor capacity will change as the load changes. To accurately check compressor capacity one should note the conditions you are operating at and plot these on a capacity curve designed for the specific compressor and refrigerant you are using. In short, the capacity that the compressor is drawing is specific to the conditions.
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 | 3. What needs to be checked when a compressor trips on the protector? |
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Copeland™ protectors are inherent, meaning they sense both temperature and amperage. If a protector trips, the system should be investigated for the increased temperature or amperage problem. Some causes could be charge shortage, high head pressures, increased friction of moving parts, reduced voltage, unbalanced voltages, shorted windings, etc.
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 | 4. What needs to be checked when an erratic oil pressure control trips? |
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First, we must recognize that there is no such thing as a nuisance oil control trip. The tripped control is warning you of an existing problem. The system should not be reset until you have looked in the sight glass and recorded the level. If the oil is below the glass, the system should be checked for leaks or oil logging. Investigate for the oil return problem. This could be corrected by longer or more defrost cycles, reducing short cycling, preventing low refrigerant charge, eliminating piping problems, etc. If it is determined that oil should be added it must be removed once the problem is remedied.
If the oil is above the glass, the system should be checked for the possibility of refrigerant diluting the oil. Liquid refrigerant floodback could be identified by absence of superheat at the compressor. It would be advisable to separate the refrigerant from the oil by heating the oil with a crankcase heater a few hours before starting or by jogging the compressor (quick start/stop of the compressor several times) until the foaming is controlled. Remember the suction service valve should not be closed while jogging the compressor. If the valve is closed the refrigerant and oil could manage a more violent explosion (flooded start) as there is less space for the initial start-up pressure to be pulled from.
If the oil level is in the sight glass, the oil may be checked if it is too hot. Identify this by checking the temperature six inches out on the discharge line. The maximum is 110°C at this distance. Any higher temperatures could mean that the cylinder temperature is above 150°C and it could cause oil control trips. If the oil is foaming excessively it may have refrigerant dilution and may be identified as a floodback problem. On refrigerant cooled semi-hermetic compressors, the problem could be an over-pressurized crankcase. The root of this problem is overheat that causes excessive crankcase pressures due to piston blow by at low loads. The problem may be found by attaching a gauge manifold set to the crankcase and the suction. With the compressor operating, start slowly front seating the suction service valve. Observation of the gages should show both falling at an equal amount until the valve is fully front seated. The point at which the crankcase gauge stops falling is proof that the crankcase blow by pressure exceeds the venting.
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 | 5. What would cause my compressor to overheat? |
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Overheating problems occur when oil in a compressor is heated to the point where it loses its ability to lubricate. If the heat is high enough, the oil breaks down chemically. Major reasons for overheating due to discharge temperatures are:
- Low suction pressures
- High condensing pressures
- High compression ratios
Low suction pressure is normally the result of incorrect pressure switch settings, pressure drop in suction line, light load operating conditions or restricted evaporator coils. High condensing pressures can be caused by inadequate airflow through the condenser, undersized discharge line/condenser, and overcharge of refrigerant or noncondensables in the system. High-pressure ratios are a combination of low suction pressures and high condensing pressures. If the compressor is operated within the manufacturer guidelines, this condition will not cause a problem. Emerson recommends monitoring discharge line temperatures to determine if the compressor is in a danger zone of overheating. Generally, discharge line temperature of 225ºF (107.2°C) and below will insure the compressor of a long life. |
 | 6. What would cause a compressor to run in a rapid cycling mode? |
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Possible causes include:
- Compressor oversized for load
- The "cycle on" and "cycle off" range of low pressure control is set too close
- Undersized evaporator/suction line piping
- A leak in liquid line solenoid valve
- Oil float feeding erratically
- The compressor shows a high to low internal leak
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 | 7. Will replacing the compressor solve a unit's noise problem? |
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In many cases, replacing the compressor will not resolve the sound issue and it is recommended that different possible noise sources be explored before a compressor exchange is considered. The noise radiated by A/C systems can be generated by:
- Compressor noise as an airborne sound
- Structural vibration of system's components such as refrigerant pipes, panels etc.
- Outdoor/indoor fan Because of the interaction between these sources of noise, it is sometimes difficult to pinpoint the origins of noise using the ear only. In general, the compressor is not the principal noise generator if the noise is heard only indoors or if the noise is still present when only the fan is running. For more information on this topic see Scroll Sound Enclosures.
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 | 8. Can a universal capacitor and relay be used with Copeland compressors? |
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The only universal start assist device approved for Copeland single-phase compressors is a PTCR (Positive Temperature Coefficient Resistor) device with a resistance as low as 12.5 ohms or higher. These devices are made by various manufacturers and are applied parallel to the run capacitor. They are approved only as low volt start-assist with piston compressors in systems where the refrigerant pressure equalizes or scroll bearing units. All other applications must use the specified Emerson start capacitor and relay combination. For more information on this topic see "Single Phase Scroll Start Assist Components" Technical Information.
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 | 9. A single-phase unit dims the customer's lights when it starts. What can be done to remedy this? |
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The simplest device to reduce light dimming caused by voltage drop while the compressor is starting is to add a start capacitor and relay. The capacitor and relay will reduce the amount of time the compressor is in locked rotor and thus reduces the amount of time the bulbs dim to a tolerable flicker.
For more information on this topic see "Single Phase Scroll Start Assist Components" Technical Information.
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 | 10. How can I tell if the compressor is operating properly? |
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The best way to determine if a compressor is pumping properly is with a set of gages, an amp meter and the compressor specifications from Select Selection Software. Measure the operating discharge and suction pressure as well as the amperage. Using a compressor data sheet, compare the amperage reading at the measured pressures. Because of voltage variations and measurement inaccuracies the measured amperage should compare to the actual curve sheet values within +/- 15%. Never check compressor operation by closing the suction valve to see how low the suction will go. This might actually cause damage to the compressor because of heat build up.
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 | 11. Is there a limit on the length of line runs or vertical risers? |
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Since Emerson Climate Technologies is a technology provider; we lack the field experience to adequately answer piping questions such as this. We would recommend following the system Original Equipment Manufacturer's (OEM) guidelines, if available. Where such information is not available, we would recommend using standard ASHRAE piping guidelines.
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 | 12. There are many oil additives that claim to increase compressor or system efficiency, others that neutralize acid or find leaks. What oil additives are approved for the Copeland brand compressors? |
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The long-term effect of chemical additives on refrigerants and materials used in the compressor are not known without time-consuming, rigorous laboratory tests. The use of most of these additives is strongly discouraged by Copeland and may result in voiding the compressor warranty. Technical Information "Oil Additives" states Copeland's position on additives.
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 | 13. How much oil is in a Scroll compressor and what is a complete recharge? |
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The amount of oil in liters is on the nameplate in the box marked oil. A complete recharge is 0.1 liter less than this amount since some of the oil remains in the compressor after draining.
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 | 14. Why do refrigeration manufacturers recommend only 80% to 90% of the original system charge when retrofitting to some HFCs? |
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The HFC's refrigerants are considered “higher efficient” and they are trying to sell refrigerants under the requirement of fewer component change outs. For example, an expansion valve works to full capacity if it has full liquid (subcooled liquid) to its inlet. If the expansion valve is considered oversized for the new refrigerant then the valve capacity will decrease if the refrigerant starts to boil off before the inlet of the valve. The vapor molecules take up more space than the liquid molecules, therefore, less refrigerant passes through the valve with vapor. Emerson recommends valves to be sized accordingly and to charge the system as basic rules apply: expansion valves are charged by clearing the sight glass in the liquid line at high load (subcooling) and the cap tubes are charged by evaporator superheat at low load conditions. If only a percentage of charge is used the compressor could overheat during an extended high load condition.
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 | 15. Is it acceptable to use R-404A and Alkyl Benzene (AB)? |
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Emerson does not approve the use of Alkyl Benzene oil with R-404A. R-404A is a HFC and Polyol Ester is the only approved oil. The Alkyl Benzene will not be miscible with the HFC. The HCFC refrigerants have a small amount of chlorine that is miscible with the AB oil. Tests have proven that oil return problems result when AB is used with R-404A.
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 | 16. Can I use a receiver on a cap tube system? |
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The refrigerant charge is critical in capillary tube systems since normally there is no receiver to store excess refrigerant. Too much refrigerant will cause high discharge pressures and motor overloading, and possible liquid floodback to the compressor during the off cycle; too little will allow vapor to enter the capillary tube causing a loss in system capacity.
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 | 17. Should a suction line filter drier be installed before or after an accumulator? |
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A drier is designed to be a temporary device to clean a system after a burnout. The suction line acts like a chimney during the burn and the soot carries into the accumulator. The soot will need to be caught before entering a newly installed compressor. For this reason we suggest that the drier be installed between the compressor and the accumulator. It should be removed within 48 hours and replaced until the system is cleaned and acid free. At this time it may be removed or a filter left in place. The filter may be installed up stream of the accumulator to keep the accumulator from being contaminated.
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 | 18. Which starting components should be used with the new Copeland™ single-phase Scroll models? |
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Only Emerson authorized start components should be used. We have tested and approved the heavy-duty start components. "Single Phase Scroll Start Assist Components", see Technical Information for more information.
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 | 19. What are the proper methods to determine operating superheat, sub-cooling and net oil pressures? |
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Superheat at the evaporator should be checked as close to the end of the coil as possible (preferably near the expansion valve thermal bulb). Take the pressure at this location with a pressure tap or to the shrader valve. Convert this to saturation temperature and compare it to the actual temperature obtained near the thermal bulb.
Superheat at the compressor should be checked at the compressor only. Take the suction pressure at the service valve and convert it to saturation temperature. Compare this to the actual temperature obtained approximately six inches out on the suction line.
Subcooling should be checked as close to the inlet of the evaporator metering device as possible. Take the pressure of the liquid line near the metering device inlet and convert this to saturation temperature. Compare it to the actual temperature obtained near the same point the pressure was obtained.
Net oil should compare the actual forces that work on the oil pump. This includes oil pump outlet pressure and crankcase pressure (not suction pressure). The suction pressure on a semi-hermetic refrigerant cooled compressor may be a couple of pounds pressure difference from the actual crankcase pressure. This especially holds true if the compressor is a two-stage application that has intermediate pressure working on the crankcase. Place a gauge manifold on the oil pump discharge and one on the compressor crankcase, the difference is net oil pressure.
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 | 20. Can I mix different oils? |
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Yes. Refer to the chapter "Qualified Refrigerants and Oils" of our compressors Application Guidelines, where the approved oils are listed.
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 | 21. Can I use R22 with POE? |
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Yes. The POE oils released by Emerson Climate Technologies can also operate with R22.
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 | 22. Can I add an additive to the oil in my system? |
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No. we generally do not recommend the use of any additives. Refer to Technical Information "Oil Additives".
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 | 23. When we are assembling the system it is open to the air for several hours. What effect will this have on POE oil? |
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Exposure to ambient air will cause moisture to be absorbed in the POE oil. Refer to various HFC refrigerant retrofit guidelines published by Emerson Climate Technologies.
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 | 24. Will too high of an oil level cause the compressor to trip on oil failure? |
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No. It may result in a motor protector trip due to high amps.
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 | 25. What is the viscosity of POE oil? |
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The viscosity of oils used in Copeland™ compressors is selected by the design of the compressor and varies from 22 to 32 cSt (centistokes), except for CO2 subcritical application which need 38 cSt oil.
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 | 26. Where can I find what refrigerants are approved for Copeland™ compressors? |
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Approved refrigerants can be found in the chapter "Qualified Refrigerants and Oils" of our compressors Application Guidelines.
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 | 27. What would be the effect if I topped off the compressor with the wrong oil? |
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Emerson Climate Technologies recommends topping with approved oils as listed in the Compressors Application Guidelines. Use of non-approved oils may result in oil management and lubrication issues that could lead to system inefficiencies and compressor failure.
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 | 28. Are all POE refrigerant oils the same? |
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No. Oils vary in viscosity, formulation, etc. and are designed for different applications in different compressors.
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 | 29. What will happen if I use Mineral oil or Alkybenzene oil with a HFC refrigerant? |
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Emerson Climate Technologies recommends using oils approved as listed in the chapter "Qualified Refrigerants and Oils" of our compressor Application Guidelines. Use of non-approved oils may result in oil management and lubrication issues that could lead to system inefficiencies and compressor failure.
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 | 30. How long can I leave POE oil exposed to the atmosphere before contamination occurs? |
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Exposure to ambient air will cause moisture to be absorbed in the oil. Refer to the various to the chapter "Lubrication and Oil Removal" in the various compressor Application Guidelines published by Emerson Climate Technologies.
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 | 31. Does Emerson Climate Technologies analyze oil from failed compressors? |
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Investigation of failed compressors generally requires oil analysis.
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